CIO vs. CISO: Aligning Technology and Security Priorities

In this insightful panel discussion, Sean Barnes sits down with Paula Stewart (CIO of Crescent Energy) and Kara Pelecky (CIO at American Bureau of Shipping) to explore the often tense yet crucial relationship between CIOs and CISOs. They discuss reporting structures, overlapping responsibilities, and how best to strike a balance between security and innovation. You’ll hear real-world examples of mitigating cybersecurity risks, navigating conflicting priorities, and fostering effective communication across teams. Whether you’re looking to strengthen CIO-CISO collaboration or interested in leadership and career growth within tech, this conversation is packed with practical takeaways and fresh perspectives.

Topics Covered

Why CIOs and CISOs sometimes clash—and how to bridge the gap
Crafting an effective reporting relationship and decision-making structure
The importance of clear communication and building trust across roles
Key leadership and soft skills for stepping into higher-level positions
Managing personal liability concerns for cybersecurity leaders

Podcast Show Notes – Episode 215 | 02.11.2025
Episode Title: CIO vs. CISO: Building Trust, Aligning Priorities, and Driving Innovation

Key Moments
0:10 – Introduction and challenges among technology leaders
1:22 – Acknowledging the Evanta team and guest introductions
3:07 – Overlapping and reporting structure of CIOs and CISOs
7:02 – Conflicts and executive overcrowding in tech leadership
10:53 – Siloed segments and tensions within technology roles
19:05 – Standardization and training for CIOs and CISOs
24:08 – Cross-functional exposure and leadership development
28:31 – Communication and leadership skills for technology executives
30:53 – Addressing personal liability and business priorities for CISOs
36:20 – Using crises for building relationships and understanding the business
38:04 – Collaboration and trust between CIOs and CISOs
41:22 – Closing remarks and gratitude

Key Takeaways
1. Effective communication and understanding of business priorities are essential for bridging the gap between CIOs and CISOs and driving successful collaboration.
2. The roles of CIO and CISO are evolving, with increasing overlap in responsibilities and the need for a strong partnership to manage both security and business operations effectively.
3. Building trust and relationships on a personal level between technology leaders can significantly enhance cooperation and facilitate smoother implementation of security and infrastructure initiatives.

Guest: Paula Stuart & Kara Pelecky
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Host: Sean Barnes
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