Corne Krige and Hein Wagner - Turning Pain Into Power

In this episode we sit down with two South Africans who know all about pressure, change, and starting again: former Springbok captain Corne Krige and blind adventurer and speaker Hein Wagner.

They take us from leaving home for boarding school as young kids, to captaining the Springboks and crossing oceans, to starting businesses and building institutions that create opportunity for others. Along the way we talk discipline, identity, independence, and what it really means to build a country that works for everyone.

In this episode we cover:
Growing up far from home: boarding school at 4 and 5, and learning independence early
Corne’s journey from Zambia to Paarl Boys’ and captaining the Springboks on debut
Hein’s story of blindness, adventure, and crossing the Atlantic with a deaf skipper
Land-speed records, Cape Epic on a tandem, Ironman, and chasing challenge after challenge
The brutal England test, retiring from rugby, and starting over in business
Building discipline, resilience, and identity beyond a Springbok jersey
Moving to Sweden and how a different system changed Hein’s view of South Africa
Hein’s daughter’s leukemia, the Swedish healthcare system, and what “a country that works for everyone” can look like

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