The Inner Shift That Transforms Your Life with Marianne Williamson | The Commune Podcast

In this episode of the Commune Podcast, Jeff sits down with Marianne Williamson for a wide-ranging conversation on Jesus, not as a figure of dogma or doctrine, but as a guide to inner transformation.
Marianne reframes the story of Jesus as a psychological and spiritual map of human awakening.

From the birth, crucifixion, and resurrection as inner archetypes, to the idea of Christ consciousness as a latent potential within us all, she invites listeners to reconsider what these teachings were originally pointing toward.

Together, Jeff and Marianne explore why this reinterpretation feels especially urgent now — as traditional institutions falter, collective suffering intensifies, and more people search for meaning beyond rigid belief systems. The conversation weaves together spirituality, politics, trauma, and moral responsibility, offering a vision of inner work as the foundation for collective healing.

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00:00 Opening and context for revisiting the conversation
01:17 Why this episode feels urgent now
03:18 The Gospel of Mary and inner transformation
03:34 The inner kingdom and psychological spirituality
04:38 Archetypes of birth and higher self
05:43 Crucifixion as personal suffering
06:11 Resurrection as return to right mind
07:16 Institutional collapse and separateness
08:46 Rethinking religion, politics, and identity
09:45 Evolution versus extinction
11:12 Universal spiritual potential
20:34 Political pluralism and humility
22:12 Quiet mind and remembrance
36:15 Closing reflections on healing and responsibility