Ancestral Healing, Family Constellations & Heart-Centred Faith With Dr. Pam Roux

Episode 9 - Real Talk With Dan shaw

In this deeply insightful episode, Dan sits down with Dr. Pam Rue P.h.D— author, Family Constellations facilitator, Enneagram specialist, and transpersonal psychology practitioner — to explore the powerful intersection of ancestral healing, spirituality, and self-awareness.

Together, they unpack themes like:

🌿 What is Family Constellations and how does it work?
💔 How generational trauma can silently shape our lives
🔢 Understanding the Enneagram as a map for personal growth
🧬 Exploring the morphogenetic field and inherited emotional patterns
🕊 Navigating Christianity and ancestral work — is it spiritually safe?
💡 How healing happens when we reconnect with love, order, and truth

Dan opens up about his own spiritual path — from psilocybin journeys to being born again in Christ — and challenges often-overlooked questions around religion, discernment, and deeper knowing.

This is an expansive, heart-led conversation filled with aha moments, paradigm shifts, and the invitation to see healing through a new lens.

Follow Dan:
Socials: @realtalkwithdanshaw & @therealdanshaw

Follow Pam Roux:
Buy Her Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0768MN6NX
Email: [email protected]

Check out the topics of conversation here:
00:00 - Intro & Welcome to Real Talk with Dan Shaw
01:10 - Who is Pam Rue? Author, Family Constellations Practitioner & Enneagram Specialist
02:55 - What is Family Constellations?
05:20 - Bert Hellinger’s journey: Zulus, Catholicism & the Orders of Love
09:15 - Working with the morphogenetic field
11:40 - Are we contacting spirits? Christian concerns explained
15:22 - The difference between symbolic healing & spiritual communication
18:00 - How trauma is passed through generations
20:45 - Introduction to the Enneagram
23:30 - What transpersonal psychology is (and how Pam got into it)
26:00 - The Enneagram as a tool for deep self-awareness
28:12 - Cardinal sins & the 9 Enneagram types explained
32:40 - Healing through self-compassion and recognition
35:10 - Is the Enneagram spiritual or psychological?
37:20 - Christianity, ancestor work & Family Constellations: Bridging the divide
41:00 - Pam’s take on who God is (Love, not dogma)
43:50 - Constellation demo example: Sister, boyfriend & family dynamic
47:15 - How healing happens through representation
49:35 - Real stories of sudden transformation after constellations
52:10 - The Bible, the field, and universal truth
54:00 - The Enneagram as a map for healing and growth
56:45 - Christianity, sin, and discerning spiritual practices
01:00:00 - How Pam got into psychology and her healing journey
01:04:25 - Integration, plant medicine, and spiritual sensitivity
01:07:10 - Letting go of control and trusting divine will
01:09:50 - Judgment vs. discernment in Christian practice
01:13:00 - Bridging spirituality and religion with compassion
01:15:20 - Final reflections: Connection, love, and healing as the core
01:17:00 - Advice from a life well-lived: “You are life”
01:19:20 - Gratitude & closing words