El Moro Pigeon Show. "No more Pure Strains of homing pigeons"

ace in the hole
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#3 · Aug 3, 2015
akbird said:
I believe there are no "pure" strains. If one were to look back far enough in the lineage you would find some other "strain" there. Yet sellers still advertise their birds as one strain or another. I also get a kick out of birds that are advertised as being for example "Hollywood" bloodline. When you look on the pedigree the Hollywood blood is only there 2 out of the 14 birds in the pedigree. I put this topic in the same category as "equal first". No such a thing, either the bird was 1st or it wasn't. On a very rare occasion 2 birds may electronically clock at he same time but if the clock could register at 1/1000000th of a second I doubt the birds would be exactly the same time.
I am guilty of this one... If I have 5 birds on the first drop and they take 1st through 5th place in the race I will call the other 4 equal 1st. The 5 of them beat all of my competition and any one of them could have had 1st place if they would have trapped a little faster.
IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LEAD THE FLOCK, YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY ON THE PERCH
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Crazy Pete
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#4 · Aug 3, 2015
Well there may not be HVR's but back in the 60's we imported Van Reil pigeons from Jeff and till another member imported Jansens we could not be beat. Never had a black one either.
Dave
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Crazy Pete
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#5 · Aug 3, 2015
Most of the Jansen bird were down from The Half Fabry so I guess even their birds are not pure.
Dave
There are too many people who are obssesed with strains and names.
There is no pure HVR, Sions, Wegge, Grondlears, Hofkens, Janessens, Jan Aardens, Stassarts and many other names that we still use to describe our pigeons today. Even back when these fanciers were still alive their birds were crossed with birds from other lofts.
It is good that we still give them credit for their contributions to the sport and the development of the modern racing pigeon, but in reality once you get a pigeon in your loft and you pair it up to another pigeon of your choice then you are the breeder of that pigeons offspring and its no longer a Ganus or Clausing or whoever you got the bird from.
Another reason why these names are still used is because they became famous and its easier to sell birds that have famous names behind them even if they have never been raced or tested. when I want to sell a bird out of my 5x first place champion cock and my champion hen who scored in nine races in a row most people would not pay as much as they would pay for a bird that Ganus, Nanez or Clausing might have raised from stock birds that never seen the inside of the basket, because its a Kal bird and no one knows Kal because he doesn't put full page ads in shiny magazines and he doesn't have fancy names for his birds.
There are pure good bird and pure mediocre birds and pure junk regardless of the strain and breeders names.

here are a couple of links to Ad Shaerlaekens articles that can be very helpful for people who are stuck on names.

http://www.schaerlaeckens.com/upload/...
http://www.schaerlaeckens.com/upload/...
http://schaerlaeckens.mikehopman.nl/p...