NO. Alex O’Connor DID NOT get Fooled By Jacob Hansen. Why Even Atheists And Honest Ex-Mormons Agree

An Atheist and an Ex-Mormon join Jacob to discuss the disingenuous reaction from some Ex-mormon podcasters to his interview with Alex O’Connor.

Note: I misattributed the 27 factually incorrect statements to Kolby when that list was actually compiled by Nemo.

In this conversation, Jacob Hansen, Jared Higdon, and Emerson Green discuss various aspects of Mormonism, including personal backgrounds, the ex-Mormon community, and reactions to Jacob's interview with Alex O'Connor. The discussion highlights the nuances of religious belief and the challenges of addressing historical narratives. The conversation delves into the historical context of Sidney Rigdon's speech, the misinterpretations surrounding it, and the broader implications of ex-Mormon narratives. The speakers discuss the argument from consequences in relation to religious beliefs, the discrepancies in Joseph Smith's First Vision accounts, and the hubris of those who believe they can improve upon established religious frameworks. They also touch on the humorous notion of Mormons having their own planet, highlighting the absurdity of certain beliefs. In this conversation, Jacob Hansen, Emerson Green, and Jared Higdon delve into the complexities of Mormonism, addressing critiques, misunderstandings, and the nuances of beliefs such as tithing. They explore the community contributions of Latter-day Saints and reflect on the broader implications of religion in human life, emphasizing the need for a nuanced understanding of faith and its role in society.



Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Riverside and Podcasting Tools
03:02 Personal Backgrounds: Ex-Mormon and Never-Mormon Perspectives
05:50 Exploring the Ex-Mormon Community and Its Dynamics
08:49 Reactions to Jacob's Interview with Alex O'Connor
12:03 Dissecting the 27 Factually Incorrect Statements
15:03 Contextualizing Historical Claims in Mormonism
17:50 The Role of Historical Apologetics in Religious Discussions
21:10 Analyzing the Extermination Order and Its Implications
38:11 The Context of Sidney Rigdon's Speech
41:29 Misinterpretations and Historical Context
45:18 The Argument from Consequences
56:59 The First Vision Accounts
01:09:43 The Hubris of Improvement
01:26:53 Mormons and Their Own Planet
01:27:21 Cynical Perspectives on Mormonism
01:29:56 Critiques and Misunderstandings of Mormon Beliefs
01:34:02 The Complexity of Tithing in Mormonism
01:44:03 Community Contributions and Misconceptions
01:58:47 Final Thoughts and Reflections on Religion

Keywords

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Sound Bites

"I thought you did really well."
"I don't think you were systematically misleading Alex."
"It's always kind of sad to me."
"I thought the interview with Alex was pretty good."
"This is one of the 27."
"That's not a factually incorrect statement."
"It's just overly pedantic."
"They omit half the story."
"It's just so rich to be like, Jacob is lying."
"What are you talking about?"
"We will never be the aggressors."
"This is wholly justifiable."
"This is a total misreading of the speech."
"You can't be friends with the Native Americans."
"You sound like a child."
"They started it is such a perverse reaction."
"You sound unhinged."
"You have to actually believe it."
"It's a draft, it was not finished."
"It's not that big of a deal if Joseph mixes up details."
"Isn't that what anyone would do in like the situation?"
"Latter-day Saints give way more than everybody else."
"The data is always better in Utah County."
"Ex-Mormonism makes liars of all of us."
"You will be religious no matter what."



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