Season 4, Episode 4: Multiple Ingredients, One Presence

In this brand new episode of Leadership: The Secret Sauce, we sit down with master coach, author, and metaphor enthusiast Lyssa DeHart for a layered, meaningful conversation about what it really takes to do deep coaching work.

From the Pacific Northwest to the ICF global stage, Lyssa opens up about her non-linear path to becoming a coach — and why the secret to transformation might just lie in your ability to stop being the expert.

Together, we explore:

Why the best coaching doesn’t come from frameworks — but from flexibility

The myth of the “singular niche” (and what to do instead)

How metaphor deepens learning, memory, and meaning

The real difference between therapy and coaching — beyond the buzzwords

What Lyssa looks for in a coach (and why silence might be their best move)

How to build a coaching business that works with your life, not against it

Whether you’re coaching, leading, or redefining how you show up — this conversation is packed with nuance, warmth, and permission to do it your way.

🔥 Perfect for listeners interested in:
Executive coaching, ICF accreditation, metaphor in coaching, coaching presence, leadership development, private practice, and authentic growth.

🎧 Listen now on:
Spotify | Apple Podcasts | YouTube

💬 Want to connect with Lyssa?
Visit LyssaDeHart.com or find her on LinkedIn.

🔗 Resources mentioned in this episode:

The Science of Coaching with Metaphor by Lyssa DeHart

Coach the Person, Not the Problem by Marcia Reynolds

Women Who Run with the Wolves by Clarissa Pinkola Estés

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey

The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz

👉 If this episode gave you something sticky to sit with — pass it along to someone who leads with heart.

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