Why Clarity Beats Mindfulness & Mindset | Jamie Smart Interview

This week on the Essential Coaching Skills Podcast, I sit down with Jamie Smart, the Sunday Times bestselling author of Clarity and Results. Jamie has an extraordinary gift for cutting through the noise and helping people access the peace of mind, resilience, and insight that are already within them.

In our conversation, we explore:

Why clarity isn’t something you achieve — it’s already built into you

The difference between clarity, mindfulness, and mindset training

How “inside-out” understanding changes the way you coach (and live)

Why most problems dissolve once you see how your perception really works

What the psychological immune system is — and how it helps us heal

The difference between toxic goals and authentic desires

If you’ve ever found yourself saying “I’ll be happy when…,” this conversation will shift the way you see yourself and your clients. Jamie doesn’t just talk about concepts—he brings them alive with stories, metaphors, and insights you can apply right away.

📘 Learn more about Jamie’s work at jamiesmart.com

Timestamps / Episode Highlights

0:02 – Welcome & introduction to Jamie Smart

2:10 – From NLP trainer to discovering clarity

4:03 – Realizing everything you’re seeking is already within

6:23 – Flow states and innate clarity

9:26 – Why mindfulness and mindset aren’t the same as clarity

13:41 – How experience is created (controlled hallucination)

16:38 – Feelings as signals about perception, not reality

20:25 – Public speaking anxiety & the teddy bear factor

23:45 – The psychological immune system explained

27:52 – Trauma, resilience, and the power of thought

29:46 – Self-image vs. who we really are

30:40 – “One spiritual being, eight billion human experiences”

36:25 – Jamie’s three-step process for clarity

38:19 – Germ theory as a metaphor for psychology

41:42 – Why clarity matters now more than ever

42:09 – Where to find Jamie’s books, podcasts, and resources

43:38 – One step you can take today to access more clarity


Jamie Smart is a Sunday Times bestselling author, educator, speaker
and coach who presents regularly at major conferences worldwide.
He shows individuals and organisations the unexpected keys to
clarity, the ultimate leverage point for creating profound transformation
and meaningful results.
Jamie’s primary focus is in showing business leaders, entrepreneurs,
coaches, therapists and other transformation professionals
how to bring subtractive psychology and the principles behind clarity
into their work with clients, into their own businesses and into
every aspect of their lives. In addition, he works with a handful of
1:1 coaching clients and leads selected corporate programmes.
Jamie has keynoted conferences for organisations ranging from
the NATO Defense College to the mental health charity, Rethink
Mental Illness and the Council of the Institute and Faculty of Actuaries.
His corporate clients range from household names like
Hewlett Packard and Dun & Bradstreet to The Specialist Works,
an SME ranked as one of the Sunday Times’s 100 Best Small Companies
to Work For.
He has appeared on Sky TV and on the BBC,
as well as in numerous publications including The Times, The
Daily Telegraph, The Huffington Post and Psychologies Magazine.
As well as CLARITY he is also the author of the books RESULTS:
Think Less, Achieve More, The Little Book of Clarity and The
Little Book of Results.
Jamie lives in the UK. When he’s not working, he loves spending
time with his family, travelling, walking, drinking coffee and
exploring.
You can connect with Jamie on the following social media sites:
Instagram: @‌JamieSmartCom
Twitter: @‌JamieSmartCom
Facebook:
Jamie Smart
YouTube: Jamie Smart
LinkedIn:   / jamiesmartclarity  
You can read Jamie’s blog, get full contact details and find his
podcasts at the link below or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jamie Smart | CLARITY