Brilliant Music, Awful People – Bellends in bands - Beat Motel Podcast

Can you love the music but loathe the maker? In this episode of the Beat Motel podcast, Andrew and Dr Sam wrestle with the ethical minefield of admiring artists who are, to put it mildly, problematic.

From Marilyn Manson’s goth evolution into sad-boy whinge to Courtney Love's redemption arc, we get into it all. Expect frank chat about cancel culture, musical genius vs personal catastrophe, and whether Mark E. Smith recorded vocals without hearing the track.

We also ask the big questions:

Is Lou Reed a difficult genius or just a knobhead with a volume fetish?

How do you reconcile Jerry Lee Lewis’s music with his, erm, romantic choices?

Should Jay Mascis be allowed to talk to anyone?

Is it OK to still like artists with dodgy pasts?

No clean answers, just filthy riffs and uncomfortable truths.

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Riffs of the week

#### Dr Sam's Riff
Say Sue Me - Vacation (0.15)
#### Andrew's Riff
Suede - Disintegrate (2:10)

Dr Sam's track choices
1. Marilyn Manson - User Friendly (opening)
2. Hole - Celebrity Skin (0.31)
3. Jerry Lee Lewis - Help Me Make It Through the Night (1:00)
4. Charles Mingus - Vassarlean (2.56)

Andrew's track choices
1. Lou Reed - Satellite of love (1:00)
2. ODB - Shimmy shimmy ya (0:44)
3. Dinosaur Jr - Freak Scene (2:18)
4. Inspiral Carpets - I want you - Featuring Mark E Smith (0:29)

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