How Hackers Trick Your Brain (Not Your Tech) | 2 Cyber Chicks S7 E2

Welcome to today’s episode, where we dive into the human side of cybersecurity with one of the most fascinating voices in the industry—Perry Carpenter, Chief Human Risk Strategist at ‪@KnowBe4‬.

Perry brings a rare mix of technology expertise, behavioral science, and even stage magic to the world of cybersecurity. He’s the acclaimed author of Transformational Security Awareness and FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions. He also hosts two award-winning podcasts—8th Layer Insights and Digital Folklore—where he explores how stories, myths, and human behavior shape our digital lives.

In this conversation, we explore:
Perry’s journey from psychology to leading human risk management in cybersecurity
Why the “human layer” is both the weakest link and the greatest strength in security
Practical ways behavioral science can reduce phishing and insider threats
The alarming rise of AI-driven risks like deepfakes and disinformation—and how to prepare
Why storytelling may just be the most powerful tool for building a resilient security culture
The oddest, funniest, and most eye-opening stories Perry has seen in the human element of cybersecurity
And his bold predictions for the next five years of cybersecurity awareness

You’ll walk away with a fresh perspective on why hackers don’t just target systems—they target people. And more importantly, how to turn human risk into human strength.

Links from this episode:

Connect with Perry Carpenter on LinkedIn:   / perrycarpenter  
Check out Perry's Website, 8th Layer Media: https://www.8thlayermedia.com/
Buy Perry's book, FAIK: https://www.thisbookisfaik.com/
Listen to the FAIK Files Podcast: https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/the...
Subscribe to Perry's YouTube channel, The FAIK Files: ‪@theFAIKfiles‬

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