The 4-Step Code to Influence with Chase Hughes

"The Hidden Scripts Controlling Your Life – And How to Take Them Back"

What if the way you parent, sell, lead, or even love… isn’t really you?
In this episode, Jeff Bloomfield is joined by Chase Hughes—former military interrogation trainer turned behavioral profiling expert—who reveals how your subconscious has been running scripts written when you were 8 years old. These hidden programs, designed for survival, are still dictating your daily decisions—unless you learn to rewrite them.
Chase has trained Navy SEALs, Fortune 500 executives, and intelligence agencies on how to read, decode, and influence behavior ethically. From cult recruiters to AI that detects caregiver intent, Chase has seen—and built—it all.
This conversation isn’t just mind-opening. It’s mind-reclaiming.

Why You Should Listen
If you’ve ever:
walked away from a conversation, wondering why you said yes


felt manipulated by media, leadership, or even your own emotions


wanted to become more influential without being manipulative


...then this episode is your playbook. Chase reveals the tools used by cult recruiters, elite interrogators, and behavioral AI—and flips them for ethical everyday use. From leadership to parenting to sales, this episode is a masterclass in reclaiming your mental autonomy and becoming unhackable.

Top 10 Takeaways
Scripts Run You—Until You Rewrite Them
Most adults live on autopilot, following behavioral programs formed between ages 2–12.


Focus → Authority → Tribe → Emotion (F.A.T.E.)
This 4-step behavioral model explains why people obey, comply, or conform—even against their own interests.


Authority Is Internal, Not Hierarchical
Real influence doesn’t come from titles. It comes from confidence, discipline, leadership, gratitude, and joy.


Tribalism Is Natural—and Dangerous
Belonging keeps us alive. But when weaponized, it becomes a tool of division and manipulation.


Micro-Tribes Shape Macro Decisions
Social media is training us to mistake attention for connection and pleasure for happiness.


You’re More Suggestible Than You Think
From cult recruiters to Kirby vacuum sales reps, Chase reveals how identity agreements are subtly formed—and exploited.


Negative Dissociation = Identity Hack
Labeling others (“those sheep”) makes you unconsciously adopt the opposite identity. It’s how cults recruit—and how sales are made.


AI Can Detect Intent in Caregivers
Chase’s latest work uses behavioral coding and neuroscience to teach AI how to detect malintent in caregivers with 98.4% accuracy.


Novelty Creates Focus. Authority Seals Influence.
The brain responds to the perception of authority—lab coats, titles, or confidence can all hijack trust.


Ethical Persuasion Starts With Intent
If someone could peek inside your mind and see your true motives—would they still say yes?



Chapter Markings
00:00 – Military roots, neuroscience passion, and Jeff’s “Junk in the Brain Trunk”


06:00 – From high school failure to Navy to bestselling author


14:00 – Why childhood scripts control your adult life


22:00 – Tribalism and the dangers of digital identity traps


30:00 – Obedience: The terrifying truth behind the Milgram experiment


36:00 – The F.A.T.E. model and how behavior is truly shaped


44:00 – Cult recruiters and identity agreements explained


49:00 – Training AI for suicide hotlines and caregiver risk


53:00 – YouTube’s Behavior Panel & Dr. Phil’s surprising email


57:00 – The PsyOp Pandemic & why Chase’s work exploded


59:00 – Real connection in an AI-generated world


1:00:00 – Final thoughts & where to find Chase's tools



🔗 Links Mentioned by Guest
🌐 Website: https://nci.university


📘 Books: The Ellipsis Manual, Behavior Ops Manual, EXIT


📺 YouTube Series: The Behavior Panel


🔬 Training Programs: Neurocognitive Intelligence University (NCI)