Paper | Immaterial | Season 1, Episode 4

Valentines, comic books, cigarette cards and more—all of these objects can be meaningful, but what does it mean to house them in a museum? Paper holds our memories, our stories, our fears, and our desires. How do conservators race against time to make them last? Enter the world of handheld ephemera, where keeping these objects in our hands or in our pockets keeps them close to our hearts.

This podcast episode was first released May 25, 2022.

Immaterial season 2 launches June 4, 2024.

Objects featured in this episode:

Omene cigarette cards (various): https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...

Esther Howland valentines (various): https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...

Guests:

Taz Ahmed, author, activist, and visual artist

Rachel Mustalish, conservator, Paper Conservation, The Metropolitan Museum of Art

Nancy Rosin, valentine researcher and scholar and volunteer cataloger in the Department of Drawings and Prints, The Metropolitan Museum of Art

Allison Rudnick, associate curator, Drawings and Prints, The Metropolitan Museum of Art

For an exclusive interview with Omene’s granddaughter, a transcript of this episode and more, visit https://www.metmuseum.org/perspective...

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Immaterial is produced by The Metropolitan Museum of Art and Magnificent Noise and hosted by Camille Dungy. This episode was produced by Adwoa Gyimah-Brempong and Eleanor Kagan.

Special thanks to Mindell Dubansky and Nadine Orenstein.

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