46% Market Share: How PhonePe CRUSHED Google Pay & Paytm | Young Turks Reloaded | CNBC TV18
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On this episode of Young Turks Reloaded, Shereen Bhan sits down with PhonePe co-founders Sameer Nigam and Rahul Chari for an unfiltered conversation tracing one of India’s most defining startup journeys. From building inside Flipkart — which they call their "startup university" — to launching PhonePe as a bold thesis in digital payments, this episode dives deep into the moments that shaped their vision.
We unpack everything: the Flipkart acquisition in 2016, Walmart’s game-changing $16B entry, the strategic hive-off in 2019, and PhonePe’s shift back to India in 2022. Today, the company is nearing a $1 billion fundraise, processing over 330 million transactions daily, clocking ₹5,000 Cr+ in revenue, and expanding across the UAE, Singapore, Nepal, and Sri Lanka — all while keeping profitability at the center.
Sameer and Rahul reflect on what it means to scale with discipline, talk candidly about competition and break down how execution, not legacy, decides who wins. They also share their views on IPO timing, the pressure of expectations, and the hard lessons learned from their Flipkart days.
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00:00 - Introduction & IPO Announcement
03:14 - Why IPO Now? Path to Profitability Explained
05:39 - ₹8000 Crore Reverse Flip Decision
06:19 - Motivation Behind Going Public
08:12 - Regulatory Legitimacy & Multiple Regulators
09:10 - Why India Over Singapore Listing
11:32 - IPO Timeline & Preparation Process
12:48 - Valuation Discussion & Market Positioning
13:39 - How Market Should Perceive PhonePe
16:47 - BFSI Diversification Strategy
17:18 - Growth Headroom in New Businesses
20:23 - Pincode Strategy & Offline Retail Vision
24:32 - Conservative Approach vs Aggressive Growth
27:22 - Building Blocks & Right to Play Philosophy
29:00 - Cashback Wars & Lessons Learned
32:00 - Digital Conglomerate Ambitions
34:12 - Walmart Partnership Benefits
35:22 - Foreign Investment Concerns
39:02 - 30% UPI Cap Regulation Challenge
48:01 - Competition & Market Leadership
51:30 - Compliance Culture & RBI Circulars
53:08 - 14 Company Values & Culture
57:52 - Flipkart Mafia & Startup University
1:01:35 - Advice for Young Entrepreneurs
1:06:45 - How They Handle Competition
1:09:10 - 30-Year Partnership Dynamic
1:15:03 - What You'll Never See on PhonePe
1:17:08 - Global Expansion Plans
1:19:16 - Closing Thoughts
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