Separation of Church and Hate: Honoring the Journey of John Fugelsang

In this season 5 opener, we welcome comedian, storyteller, and political commentator John Fugelsang to discuss his multifaceted career and his new book, "Separation of Church and Hate." The conversation delves into his unique upbringing by parents who left religious ministry for love, his evolving relationship with faith, and his critique of how fundamentalism has shaped modern Christianity and politics. Together, they explore the challenges of deconstructing religious beliefs, the importance of compassion over dogma, and the need to reclaim the teachings of Jesus from those who use religion as a tool for power and exclusion.

Key Ideas:
John Fugelsang’s background: son of former nun and Franciscan brother, raised in a progressive Catholic household.
Discussion of his new book, "Separation of Church and Hate," which critiques the weaponization of Christianity by right-wing fundamentalists.
Exploration of how fundamentalism distorts the teachings of Jesus and promotes exclusion, fear, and political power.
Personal stories of questioning and deconstructing faith, both from John and Leslie.
The difference between following Jesus’ teachings and adhering to organized religion or literal interpretations of scripture.
The role of empathy, love, and humility in true Christian practice.
The challenge of engaging with family and community members who hold rigid or exclusionary beliefs.
Encouragement to use scripture thoughtfully in discussions, focusing on compassion rather than condemnation.
The importance of modeling kindness and understanding, even when disagreeing with others.
A call to reclaim faith from those who use it to justify hate or political agendas.

You can pre-order John's new book on Amazon NOW! It will be out September 9, 2025.