Being a mom doesn’t need to be all-consuming (w/ Ruth Grace Wong!) | Ep 25

Ruth is one of our most prolific side project friends, and also one of our most prolific parent friends. Sometimes those two identities intersect, like when Ruth builds kids play areas in community spaces to make San Francisco a more kid friendly city.

In this episode, we talk about joyful parenting, and how a brief stint in hospice care shifted her towards an anti-perfectionist mindset.

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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
2:18 How would you stack rank your current interests as a mom?
4:22 From software engineer to full time nerd
7:03 Babies should sleep on their backs
9:07 Parenting is harder now than before
15:58 How old are your kids?
18:32 I read a lot of scientific papers
20:55 On joyful parenting
27:38 Embracing being a mediocre mom
33:50 Making third spaces for parents
39:30 Is it ok if parenting is easy and fun?
48:55 What are your hobbies these days?
59:03 How I learned to embrace failure
1:04:20 Check out

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