Golden Plates and the Book of Mormon | Ep. 1583 | LDS Discussions Ep. 02

Today John is joined by LDS Discussions and Nemo to review the history of the "Golden Plates" as they relate to the creation of the Book of Mormon.

Who did the first accounts come from of the existence of these plates? Were they real? What became of attempts to see, show, or steal them? What implications do these stories have on Mormon origins and beliefs regarding encounters with celestial beings, including the God supposedly at the center of their coming forth?

Special Guest: ‪@NEMOTHEMORMON‬

LDS Discussions Essay: https://www.ldsdiscussions.com/plates

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Video Chapters:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:04:07 Overview of the puzzle of evidence
00:05:50 Timeline of the Gold Plates accounts
00:07:55 Joseph’s 1823 visitation from Moroni/Nephi
00:13:27 Joseph’s 1823 attempt to retrieve the plates
00:20:50 Problems with the 1823 Gold Plates account
00:22:45 Oliver Cowdery on why the 1823 attempt failed
00:25:40 Joseph told to bring Alvin for the 1824 attempt
00:26:50 The 1824 attempt to recover the Golden Plates
00:28:55 Fallout from Alvin’s death and the 1824 Attempt
00:32:30 What to make of Joseph Smith Sr’s announcement?
00:35:35 The 1825 and 1826 attempts to retrieve the plates
00:44:30 The creation of the “spectacles”
00:45:15 The Book of Mormon spectacles
00:51:45 A second account of the spectacles
00:52:25 The 1827 retrieval of the Gold Plates
01:00:20 Emma’s Role in the 1827 retrieval
01:07:50 What a “Hollow Tree” Looks Like
01:12:30 Watching the plates through the seer stone
01:17:02 Bringing the plates home land the mad dash back
01:22:55 Joseph arrives home with the plates
01:27:30 What the plates would have looked like
01:28:20 Could Joseph Smith have created a prop set of plates?
01:33:00 Problems with the Idea of Gold Plates
01:36:39 Gold Plates are one of Fair Mormon’s “Best Evidence”
01:37:18 The Mormon Church is touting these places, too
01:37:55 All about the Pyrgi plates
01:38:40 Why the Pyrgi Tablets are Problematic for the Book of Mormon
01:44:38 Math, Gold Plates, and the Book of Mormon
01:51:53 Conclusion of LDS Discussions about Gold Plates
02:00:17 What really matters

Episode Show Notes: https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast...

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