The State of Illustration Report | Interview with Darren Di Lieto of Hireillo

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What does the illustration industry really look like right now — beyond highlight reels, social media, and shiny success stories?
In this episode, I talk with Darren Di Lietto, founder of Hireillo and the author of the State of Illustration report. For more than a decade, Darren has been surveying illustrators around the world to better understand how we work, how we get paid, and how sustainable illustration actually is as a career.

We have an honest conversation about confidence, pricing, late payments, mental health, and the quiet pressures shaping illustrators’ lives today. We talk about who’s best positioned to thrive, where illustrators are struggling most, and why so many are being squeezed out early on in their careers.
I was surprised, and honestly a little bit depressed by the numbers in the report—but Darren helps me see some of the positive takeaways as well.

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IN THIS EPISODE
— What the State of Illustration report reveals about the current health of the industry
— Why confidence in pricing and negotiation remains such a challenge
— Who seems best positioned to last — and who is most at risk
— How late payments and income instability continue to affect illustrators
— The impact of the cost-of-living crisis on creative careers
— Mental health, anxiety, and confidence among working illustrators
— What hope and resilience Darren sees in the data
— Where the State of Illustration report might go next

SHOW LINKS
From Darren
— State of Illustration report ($18USD — PDF download) — https://www.stateofillustration.com
— Hireillo — https://www.hireillo.com
— Darren's website — http://darrendilieto.com
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