You Can Make it Happen with Anil Swarup | Let's Chat With GB | EP 25

In this episode of “Let’s Chat with GB”, we sit down with one of India’s most respected civil servants Anil Swarup, former IAS officer, author of “You Can Make It Happen”, and the visionary behind some of India’s most transformative government reforms.

From handling national crises during the 1984 riots, to leading the coal sector turnaround, and shaping India’s health insurance policy (RSBY → Ayushman Bharat) — Anil Swarup has seen governance at its toughest and most inspiring.

Highlights of this episode:

His early life and the story behind choosing the IAS dream 💭

Lessons from the 1984 riots and political pressures in bureaucracy 🧠

How he convinced ministers, Chief Ministers, and even the Prime Minister 🇮🇳

The real story behind Rashtriya Swasthya Bima Yojana (RSBY) and Ayushman Bharat 🏥

What bureaucrats and politicians can learn from AI, attitude, and adaptability 💡

His honest take on education corruption, reforms, and what India must fix today 📚

“Artificial intelligence is not the problem — it’s our attitude,” says Anil Swarup in one of the most insightful discussions on governance and change.

00:00 – Introduction
01:14 – Welcoming Anil Swarup
03:00 – Inspiration to Join the Civil Services
06:00 – First Posting & Political Challenges
09:40 – Handling Riots and Mandal Commission Protests
13:00 – Lessons in Communication & Persuasion
15:30 – Convincing Chief Ministers & Building RSBY
20:40 – From RSBY to Ayushman Bharat
26:40 – Technology & AI in Governance
33:30 – Power, Transparency & Digital Files
40:10 – Types of Corruption: Nazrana, Shukrana, Jabbrana
45:10 – Ease of Doing Business & Bureaucratic Reforms
48:20 – Rapid Fire with GB
52:00 – Education Sector Challenges
57:30 – Leadership, HR & Team Management
1:02:30 – Life Lessons & Advice for Civil Servants
1:07:00 – Closing Remarks & Gift Segment


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