The Dark Matter Shaping the Human Experience with Indy Johar | TGS 147

(Conversation recorded on October 3rd, 2024)

While humans, like all animals, are subject to certain fundamental realities, we also possess the unique ability to shape the world around us through physical infrastructure, laws and institutions, and our economic and social systems. And yet, it’s important to remember that, as today’s guest would say, what we design designs us back. In short, the systems and structures we build influence our cultures, values, and identities.

Today, Nate is joined by architect and professor of planetary civics, Indy Johar, to explore the relationship between system design and human behavior - and what might be possible for transformational change. Along the way, they discuss the impact of sunk costs on our ability to change, the importance of new language to describe and respond to our human predicament, and envision future governance and economies that could enable the full spectrum of what it means to be human.

What sorts of unconventional ideas, like self-owning land and technology, could lead to economies that are capable of sustaining humans as well as foster a healthy planet? How do our current societies prevent us from embodying and living into our greatest gifts as human beings? Is it possible to intentionally redesign our systems at the physical, structural, and psychological levels in service of all the entangled life inhabiting the Earth?


About Indy Johar:

Indy Johar is co-founder of Dark Matter Labs, as well as the RIBA award winning architecture and urban practice Architecture00. He is also a founding director of Open Systems Lab, seeded WikiHouse (open source housing), and Open Desk (open source furniture company).

Indy is also a non-executive international Director of the BloxHub, which is the Nordic Hub for sustainable urbanization. He has taught & lectured at various institutions from the University of Bath, TU-Berlin; University College London, Princeton, Harvard, MIT and New School. He is currently a professor at RMIT University.

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00:00 - Introduction
02:35 - Indy's Background
07:48 - What We Design Designs Us Back
12:00 - What Does it Mean to be Human?
16:47 - Sunk Costs
19:33 - How Do We Get Out?
28:25 - Preemptive Peace
32:59 - Sovereignty
35:45 - An Agentified World
37:46 - Entanglement
44:27 - Being Radically Human
49:43 - AI
54:07 - Education
57:11 - The Two Timelines Ahead
01:04:18 - Restructuring Society
01:12:00 - Capitalism and Othering
01:17:41 - Converging Ideas
01:25:16 - Closing Questions