The VC Sage Speaks Out - Sudhir Rao on India’s Startup Future | Celesta Capital | Podcast 🎙️

In this episode of The Bulletproof Business Podcast, Zolvit Founder & CEO Hrishikesh Datar sits down with veteran investor Sudhir Rao, Managing Partner at Celesta Capital and co-founder of Karvy Investor Services, to unpack the real relationship between capital, talent, governance and innovation in India.

With decades across public markets, private equity and venture capital, Sudhir explains how the VC ecosystem powers India’s “new economy,” why excess can be dangerous, and what it truly takes to build affordable, globally competitive deep tech from a $2,500-per-capita economy.

From copycat models vs real innovation, to India’s digital public infrastructure, to why he’d bet on Zolvit as the GRC backbone for SMEs — this conversation is a sharp masterclass in risk-adjusted thinking and long-term value creation.
Honest, practical and deeply insightful, this episode is a must-watch for founders, operators and investors building resilient businesses in India.

In this conversation, Sudhir talks about:

➤ What would happen if venture capital disappeared from India overnight
➤ How capital + talent together fuel the startup ecosystem
➤ Why excess money, speed and valuations can be dangerous
➤ The mindset shift founders need beyond “I can’t build without capital”
➤ Copying the West vs innovating for India’s affordability and scale
➤ Building affordable deep tech for 5 billion people
➤ How India created world-class digital public infrastructure
➤ Thinking in terms of feeding, clothing, housing and serving a billion people
➤ Why he’d bet on Zolvit as India’s GRC backbone for SMEs
➤ The rise of cyber risk and the need for cyber insurance
➤ Mindset upgrades Indian entrepreneurs need to go global
➤ The role of collective behaviour, discipline and “imposed discipline” in progress

📘 Learn more about Sudhir Rao:
Celesta Capital: https://www.celesta.vc/
Sudhir's Profile: https://www.celesta.vc/people/sudhir-...
IGIC On Sudhir: https://indiaglobalinnovationconnect....

📘 Learn more about Zolvit:
About Zolvit (Formerly Vakilsearch):

Zolvit is your one-stop platform for all business services — from company registration and legal compliance to tax filings and finance management. Designed especially for startups and SMEs, Zolvit simplifies complex paperwork and regulatory processes so you can focus on growing your business.
• Website Link: https://vakilsearch.com/

📘 Learn more about Hrishikesh Datar:
Hrishikesh Datar is the Founder and CEO of Zolvit (formerly Vakilsearch).

Connect with Hrishikesh Datar:
• Instagram:   / datarhrishikesh  
• LinkedIn:   / datar  

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Timestamps:
00:00 – Copying, Context & “Affordable Deep Tech”
01:13 – Intro: Bulletproof Business Podcast & Zolvit
01:39 – Who is Sudhir Rao? (Karvy, Celesta, Boards, Professor)
03:10 – What If Venture Capital Vanished from India?
05:28 – Is Easy VC Money Hurting India’s Competitiveness?
08:08 – Sacred Cow Beliefs: “I Can’t Build Without Capital”
10:37 – Copying the West vs Innovating for India’s Reality
15:03 – India’s Payments & Digital Public Infrastructure
17:10 – Where Sudhir Would Bet All His Wealth (Zolvit & More)
25:07 – Going Fully Digital: Cyber Risk & Cyber Insurance
26:33 – Mindset Shifts for Indian Entrepreneurs to Go Global
29:00 – Collective Behaviour, Discipline & Imposed Discipline
30:31 – Demographic Dividend: India’s 25–35 Age Advantage
40:23 – 5,000 Billion-Dollar Businesses: Thinking in Value Chains
45:38 – Parting Shot: Don’t Be Miserly with Your Dreams