The Fall of GodLogic. HOT DEBATE! | Hashim | Speakers Corner

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Summary:
A heated debate between two individuals, a Christian named Avery (referred to as "chef") and a Muslim named Hashim (referred to as "master chef"), concerning the authenticity and authority of the Bible, specifically the Gospels, versus the Quran and Islamic teachings. Hashim asserts that the Quran is the definitive, preserved scripture (Al-Muhaimin), rendering the Bible unnecessary and arguing that the Christian Gospels are historically unreliable, written decades after Jesus, and lack a known original language or early manuscripts. Avery, in contrast, uses Islamic scripture to argue that the Quran confirms the presence of the Injil (Gospel) among Christians in the seventh century, implying that Hashim's rejection of the Bible contradicts the Quran and that the Bible should serve as a criterion for judging the Quran's truth. The debate devolves into interruptions, personal insults, and disputes over debate etiquette and topic boundaries, as they fail to reach a consensus on the origin, language, or canonical status of the Injil or the gospels.
Also, a significant portion of the discussion revolves around the doctrine of the Trinity, with particular attention paid to the definition of Aseity (self-existence) and its application to the persons of the Father and the Son. The debate frequently becomes a contentious argument over the correct definitions of terms like "being," "personhood," and "consciousness," often descending into accusations of the opponent switching definitions or being philosophically unprepared. Arguments are also made regarding Biblical interpretation, specifically Mark 13:32 and the knowledge or 'knowing' of Jesus concerning the final hour, to dispute the idea that the Father and Son share the same consciousness or essence. The overriding theme is the Muslim participant's attempt to demonstrate that the Trinity is illogical and unbiblical through philosophical and semantic scrutiny.

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