Cole Hamels on Playing Big, Living Well, and Avoiding Burnout

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What does success look like to you?

For many, it’s about being the best and reaching the top, and sure, that’s part of it. But lasting success is what happens when the pressure is on and when failure strikes.

Someone who knows this very well is our guest - World Series MVP and MLB legend Cole Hamels.

Cole spent nearly two decades competing at the highest level of baseball. But he’s here to talk about the inner game.

Laura and Mike sit down with Cole to explore what it really takes to sustain excellence over time. He opens up about how failure shaped him, why perfectionism nearly cost him, and how he protects his mental health without losing his edge.

Cole also shares his journey of reinventing himself after retirement, and why staying open to new challenges has kept him growing.

This episode is for anyone who wants to perform at a high level without losing themselves in the process.

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Key Takeaways:

Introduction (00:00)
Performance under pressure & success foundations (03:31)
Career-defining injury and mindset shift (06:59)
Holistic performance approach (09:59)
Influential books and learning resources (11:45)
Challenges and adaptation (14:56)
Perfectionism as a double-edged tool (17:52)
Pivotal leadership moment (24:05)
Career transition and current roles (28:23)
Personal development and authenticity (32:52)
Burnout prevention and recovery (38:46)

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