Rick Rule on Why Smart Money Is Piling Into Natural Gas & Oil Again

Rick Rule, the ultimate natural-resource insider, joins banking legend Frank Trotter—co-founder of EverBank and now CEO of Battle Bank for an in-depth conversation about energy, gold, and the next major cycle for commodities.

In this interview from The Big Skinny, Lou Basenese dives deep into:
⦿ Why the oil and gas sector is arithmetic, not narrative
⦿ How deferred investment will drive energy prices higher by 2027–2028
⦿ Gold’s outlook amid government debt, inflation, and fiat-currency erosion
⦿ How Battle Bank is redefining modern banking—integrating precious metals, foreign currencies, and retirement flexibility

From the future of natural resources to fintech disruption, this is a conversation investors can’t afford to miss.

💡 Learn more about Battle Bank: https://battlebank.com

🕒 Chapters

0:37 – “Contrarian or Victim”: Why investors should love what others hate
1:04 – Oil and gas free cash flow and capital discipline
1:30 – When output cuts will hit: 2027–2028 outlook
2:07 – Exxon trading at deep discount to net present value
2:40 – Frank Trotter on tight commodity markets
3:41 – Buying quality energy assets at discounts
4:41 – Rick Rule: “The upside is inevitable”
5:10 – Investing in Canadian oil and gas despite political risk
6:20 – Comparing energy valuations to Big Tech discounts
6:34 – Is the gold rally over?
7:09 – Gold’s long-term role as fiat currencies weaken
8:03 – Rick’s take: Dollar to lose 75% purchasing power in a decade
8:52 – Gold vs. inflation: “Your gold isn’t going up, your dollar’s going down”
9:25 – Frank Trotter on Battle Bank’s new model
10:05 – Precious metals, MELOCs, and fintech disruption
11:07 – How Battle Bank empowers depositors and diversification
12:09 – Building a digital community bank across North America
13:05 – Regulatory progress and launch timing
13:52 – Battle Bank’s first loans and rollout timeline
14:25 – Natural gas and oil market forecasts
15:07 – Rick’s top gas picks: Tourmaline, Birchcliff, Devon, and EQT
16:06 – Oil equilibrium, technology, and drilling inventory
17:19 – Next-gen recovery tech and demand outlook
18:20 – Highlights from the New Orleans Investment Conference
19:11 – Final thoughts and what’s next for Battle Bank

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