Christian, Agnostic & Spiritual Thinker wrestle with Fate vs Bible

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Deconstructing faith, rigid religion or fluid spirituality? A Christian, agnostic and spiritual thinker wrestle with purpose, fate and the Bible. Pull up a stool for pub chat you won’t hear anywhere else.

Hosted by BBC 1Xtra’s Theo Johnson, featured guests; Arnold Jorge, Leanne Amaning and Isabelle Landicho. Three ways of seeing the world. One bar. All the questions that connect us.

Introducing Walk In A Bar — unlikely guests sit for a conversation that is anything but ordinary. Deep questions. Surprising perspectives. Banter on tap. New episode’s dropping bi-weekly. Subscribe to    / @four8tv   to watch new episodes. Follow along on   / four8stories   for updates and exclusive behind-the-scenes content.

CHAPTERS:
00:00 – Cold open: “Are we just an accident?”
Isabelle drops the Big Bang question and Theo tees up the bar debate.
00:00:32 – Three ways of seeing the world
Theo frames the show: three belief systems, one bar, one big conversation.
00:00:46 – Meet the bar crew: Spiritualist, Christian, Deconstructing
Isabelle, Arnold and Leanne introduce where they’re at with faith and spirituality.
00:01:32 – What even is purpose?
Arnold shows his “purpose” tattoo as they unpack what purpose actually means.
00:03:48 – Purpose vs goals: are we overhyping it?
Do we need a big life purpose, or is just existing enough?
00:04:38 – Higher power or pure accident?
The table weighs up God-given purpose versus a random universe.
00:06:05 – God vs the Big Bang: origin story faceoff
Arnold holds to creation; Theo pushes on science and faith co-existing.
00:06:59 – Destiny, free will & karma
Are we writing our own story or living out something pre-planned?
00:09:06 – Are we all just searching for meaning?
They admit how desperate humans are to find signs and patterns.
00:10:05 – Right vs wrong: instinct or learned?
Is morality built-in, taught by family, or constantly shifting?
00:13:32 – Are religious texts outdated or essential?
Leanne questions heaven, hell and how scripture fits modern life.
00:16:34 – Born into belief & slave Bible history
They dig into colonisation, edited Bibles and religion handed down at birth.
00:17:14 – Kindness, Christians & “church hurt”
Arnold separates messy Christians from the message of Christianity.
00:19:31 – Has our view of God really changed?
Is God fixed while people change, or are we reshaping God?
00:21:51 – Rules, the Bible & picking and choosing
Isabelle presses Arnold on cherry-picking verses and “good Christian” behaviour.
00:25:29 – Is love innate or something we learn?
They debate whether love is hardwired or shaped by childhood.
00:27:22 – Deconstructing faith & living with doubt
Leanne shares how questioning religion eased her anxiety.
00:28:04 – Religion vs relationship: Arnold’s take
Arnold talks knowing God personally versus performative “religious” vibes.
00:29:50 – Where do you put your faith when life’s messy?
Money, God, higher power or nothing at all—what actually holds you?
00:31:36 – Higher power, energy & belief without rules
Isabelle leans into energy, vibes and a God-adjacent higher force.
00:31:41 – Faith in yourself, friends or something bigger?
Leanne admits she leans on her people when self-belief dips.
00:32:43 – Being the best version of you
They talk becoming better humans, with or without religion attached.
00:33:35 – Science, nature & going back to “factory settings”
Isabelle connects pre-colonial beliefs, nature and seeing the earth as sacred.
00:35:13 – Final reflections & last orders
Theo wraps the night and invites viewers back for another round.

CREDITS:
Host: Theo Johnson
Featuring: Arnold Jorge, Leanne Amaning and Isabelle Landicho
Created by: James Walker
Director of Photography: Ricardo Mcleary-Campbell
Series Director: Femi Oyeniran
Series Producer: Delia Williams
Camera Operators: Fola Abatan, Alexander Rozerot Kirkwood, Giulio Piccirillo, Dan Howe, Jomar O’Meally
Gaffer: Duane Jay
Spark: Sachin Parmar
2nd AC: Marcellino Hockner
Assistant Producer: Lakesha Abrams
Casting By: LEVILE
Casting Assistant: Vanessa Mensah
Production Design: Wet Studio
Art Director: Hannah Eccles
Supervising Sound Editor: James Hynes
Sound Recordist: Declan Chew
Sound Assistant: Ada Walker
Digital Imaging Technician: Judy Tett
Make Up Artist: Tashana Francis
Photographer: Johnathan Williams
Location Assistants: Alex Bullock, Alex Lawrence, Mairéad Ruane
Editor: Olumide Odutuga
Series Edit Producer: Bec Gourlay 
Colourist: Freddie Reed
Post Production Sound: The Sound Directors
Graphics: Isabella Walker
Executive Producers: James Walker, Vikki McLachlan
Filmed on Location at: Stereo Covent Garden
With Thanks: Soho Sonic
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