Discussing the Disastrous Tekken 8 Season 2 Patch w/ PhiDX

What exactly is going on over there in Tekken land?
featuring ‪@PhiDX‬ |   / phidx  

EVO Japan 2020 Leroy patch:    • Tekken 7 - Liquid | Gen (Leroy) vs Ta...  
Jack is Making some noise:   / boldpleasantlousehoneybadger-po410y8jcfvzs86q  
Speedkicks playing Hwo in S2: https://x.com/Speedkicks/status/19071...
Anna moveset swap bug: https://x.com/monga_munga/status/1910...
https://x.com/IAmFury_tk/status/19104...

streamed Apr. 10, 2025

0:00 Intro
0:59 This patch in comparison to previous bad patches
4:37 Would it have been better if they just told us it was going to be a party game patch?
7:02 Comparing this patch to bad patches from other recent games
9:40 Simplifications that make sense and don't make sense
14:52 Who are these changes for?
16:14 It sounds like the new moves are the main issue
19:04 Characters losing their identity and the game losing layers
21:46 The homogenization in Tekken
25:42 What makes Tekken frustrating at a mid-high level
26:32 The most egregious changes
31:40 Sharp characters getting rounded out
34:26 The fun of navigating your characters strengths AND weaknesses
36:56 Hopes for the emergency patch
37:53 Selfish game
41:07 If you're having fun, keep playing
42:03 Season 2 is the end of the game launch grace period
43:47 The effect of giant patches on competitive play
46:43 Heat in Tekken 8
53:04 Why Tekken 7 was so defensive
54:37 Layers in older Tekkens
58:06 The consequences of so many homing moves and worse movement
1:00:06 How did this happen?
1:02:05 The power of smaller targeted changes
1:03:30 Is there an audience for this patch?
1:05:21 What's the plan moving forward?
1:07:27 QoL is so so important
1:08:57 I hope things improve
1:11:06 I still don't really understand how this happened





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