The Relebogile Mabotja Podcast #32 – DJ Cleo: I Don't Know How To Deal With Grief

In this episode of the Relebogile Mabotja Podcast, I am in conversation with DJ Cleo, a legend in the music industry as well as a producer and radio host.

We speak about his childhood, where his parents encouraged him to dream big, and explore how his journey began when he taught himself to play the guitar. DJ Cleo opens up about navigating fatherhood, learning from his mistakes, and trying to figure himself out as a young parent.

We talk about friendships, the power of forgiveness, and how he sometimes struggles to let go of grudges. He shares the pivotal lesson he learned from Riky Rick, a vital lesson that revitalized his music career.

DJ Cleo reflects on his experiences with grief and depression, sharing how he survived those dark times and learning to appreciate life through both the good and the bad.

This episode is filled with raw honesty, laughter, and eye-opening life lessons.

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01:19 - Why Today's Music Doesn't "Slap the Same"
02:40 - Should the Music Industry Be Regulated?
06:15 - Why DJ Cleo Used American Vocalists
10:25 - DJ Cleo Ranks His Top 5 South African Music Producers
13:55 - The Moment People Realized DJ Cleo is a True Musician
17:14 - Why DJ Cleo Wouldn't Change His Painful Childhood Moments
20:43 - The Pressures of Raising Kids in the Modern World
26:50 - Having Difficult, Open Conversations with His Daughters
31:08 - Supporting Brickz in Prison
32:55 - The Full Story Behind The SAMA Awards Beef with Brickz
39:32 - Can Society Really Help with Rehabilitation?
42:26 - The Biggest Lesson DJ Cleo Learned About Marriage
44:46 - DJ Cleo's Powerful Definition of Love
51:56 - How Losing a Job is a Blessing in Disguise
59:17 - Dealing with Grief
01:03:36 - The Pressure and Pride of Finally Getting His Degree