James Lindsay EXPOSES the “Woke Right”: Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and the New Extremism

In this powerful and wide-ranging conversation, James Lindsay—author, mathematician, and founder of New Discourses—breaks down a phenomenon most conservatives still don’t understand: the rise of the “Woke Right.”

Hosted by Rabbi Daniel Schonbuch, LMFT, with co-host attorney Lori Fein, this episode examines how a style of thinking once associated with the radical left—utopian certainty, grievance politics, “forbidden knowledge,” and totalizing moral narratives—is now emerging on parts of the right.

James explains why wokeness is not a political position but a method—and how figures like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens (in very different ways) illustrate the same dangerous epistemology: privileging outsider narratives, attacking shared reality, and framing dissent as proof of hidden corruption.

We explore:

⚖️ The difference between authoritarianism and totalitarianism
🧠 How grievance and alienation become engines of radicalization
✡️ Why antisemitism becomes the first—and never the last—target
📈 How online incentives and algorithms reward extremism
🚨 Why this rhetoric does not stay online and leads to real-world violence
🧭 What moral clarity looks like for conservatives who want a future

This is not a left-vs-right debate. It’s a warning about how movements collapse when truth is replaced by power narratives—and why reclaiming moral and intellectual seriousness matters now more than ever.

Timeline

00:00 — Why the “Woke Right” matters right now
02:05 — Who is James Lindsay & why this conversation matters
04:15 — What “woke” really means (it’s a method, not a policy)
08:45 — Authoritarian vs totalitarian thinking
12:30 — How grievance and alienation fuel extremism
18:40 — “Forbidden knowledge” and the collapse of shared reality
24:50 — Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens & media incentives
32:40 — Why antisemitism becomes the first target
40:10 — Israel, reality vs propaganda, and moral clarity
49:30 — When rhetoric turns into real-world violence
56:20 — Why this threatens Christians and society at large
01:01:30 — What conservatives must do now

📌 Guest: James Lindsay (New Discourses)
🎙 Host: Rabbi Daniel Schonbuch, LMFT

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