Why EVERYTHING in Leadership Changes When You Stop Controlling Everything ft. Craig Groeschel

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Are you holding yourself back from leading at your highest level?

In this incredible conversation, I sit down with my good friend Craig Groeschel—someone I admire deeply, not just for what he’s accomplished, but for the man he is at his core. We get real about leadership—what it means to empower others, to listen, to ask better questions, and to build a culture that thrives whether you’re in the room or not. Craig shares candidly about the lessons he’s learned over nearly 30 years leading one of the largest churches in the country and launching the YouVersion Bible App that’s impacted millions.

One of the things that really hit home in this episode is how Craig talks about the shift from thinking leadership is about you to realizing it’s about what happens when you’re not there. We break down how great leaders give authority, not just tasks, and how that’s the key to developing other leaders rather than creating followers. And yes, we go into the hard stuff—the criticism, the self-doubt, the moments where you feel like playing it safe. Craig doesn’t shy away from those moments, and neither do I in this conversation.

We also talk about something that’s been huge for me this year—surrender. Craig shares what it really means to give up control where it’s not ours to begin with, and why trusting God with the things we can’t shape frees us to lead with greater courage and faith. This episode isn’t about theory—it’s about real tools you can put into practice starting today.


Here’s what you’ll take away from this episode:

How to shift from controlling to empowering so you can build leaders, not just followers.

Why your effectiveness as a leader is measured by what happens when you’re absent, not present.

The habits that anchor Craig’s leadership and how to create your own keystone habits.

A fresh approach to giving and receiving feedback that builds trust and fuels growth.

The difference between showing love and showing belief—and why your team (and family) needs both.

How to handle self-doubt and stop playing it safe in your vision and leadership.

What true surrender looks like in your leadership and life.

If this conversation moves you the way it did me, do yourself a favor—share it, take action on it, and let it change the way you lead. Max out your life, my friends!



Main Points:
00:00 Intro
05:00 What Young Craig Got Wrong About Leadership
11:20 Listening Is Essential In Leadership
15:13 Managing Intensity Without Crushing People
20:40 Giving & Receiving Feedback
28:51 Pouring Belief Into People
32:12 Keystone Habits That Anchor Everything
37:16 Maintaining Culture at Scale
45:59 Jesus as the Ultimate Leadership Example
47:54 The Power of Apologizing as a Leader
52:44 Overcoming Self-Doubt & Playing Bigger
56:34 Total Surrender In Leadership


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