How AI reshapes the craft of software engineering, with Yoav Tzfati

Patrick McKenzie is joined by AI researcher Yoav Tzfati to discuss “vibe coding” - using LLMs to delegate software engineering work to AI models. Yoav runs a bootcamp teaching programming novices to build full-stack web applications using AI, without them ever looking at code. Patrick and Yoav discuss the fundamental shift in software engineering, where humans increasingly act as product managers directing AI "junior engineers," and explore the implications for the future of programming careers and the democratization of software development.
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Read full transcript here: www.complexsystemspodcast.com/how-ai-reshapes-software-engineering/
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Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) is a podcast on technology, finance, and systems thinking. Subscribe on Apple or Spotify below to find episodes with Byrne Hobart, Zvi Mowshowitz, Kelsey Piper, Casey Handmer, and solo episodes where Patrick discusses his viral essays like How to Negotiate Your Salary Package.

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Full transcripts: https://www.complexsystemspodcast.com/

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Follow on Twitter:
Patrick McKenzie: @patio11
Yoav Tzfati: @yoavtzfati
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Links:
Yoav's bootcamp: https://www.code-bloom.app/
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(01:57) The concept of Vibe Coding
(05:51) Exploring the practicalities of Vibe Coding
(11:46) Teaching AI-driven development to novices
(18:50) The future of AI in software engineering
(24:29) The future of learning and AI
(25:26) Timelines and model capabilities
(25:57) Flappy Bird and AI's progress
(01:23) The impact of LLMs on engineering
(28:33) The evolution of coding practices
(34:05) Monitoring and error handling with AI
(41:13) The future of software engineering roles
(48:27) Practical tips for engineers
(50:00) Wrap

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