Designing Playful, High-Accountability Learning with Dr. Johannes Ziegler, CEO of Miaplaza

In this episode of Chalk and Code, host Theron Davis sits down with Dr. Johannes Ziegler, CEO of Miaplaza, the company behind Miacademy, MiaPrep, and their accredited online high school.

Johannes shares how a small social networking project evolved into a full learner-centered ecosystem for homeschoolers and online high school students. What began as kids’ “edutainment” grew into a mastery-based K–12 model built around motivation, pacing, safety, and authentic engagement.

He also reflects on the entrepreneurial side of building Miaplaza, the role of the right team, and how AI and automation are reshaping the skills students will need next.

Key Moments

00:46 How Miacademy began and why students shaped the pivot

11:02 Mastery-based learning and real starting levels

13:34 Why math gaps matter and how to prevent them

15:43 Personalization through placement, pacing, and remediation

17:00 Fixing foundational gaps, including fractions

18:56 Doubling down on learner strengths

26:59 What students learn from play, shops, and the in-app economy

32:17 Supporting highly engaged and hands-off parents

38:13 Entrepreneurial lessons on team and mission

43:14 Automation, AI, and the future of needed skills

49:49 Where to learn more about Miacademy

Why You’ll Love This Episode
This conversation goes beyond online vs. traditional schooling. You’ll hear a grounded look at how mastery-based learning, playful design, and real-world skills come together in a scalable ecosystem. Johannes shares what it takes to build rigorous yet engaging learning, how to design for strengths instead of gaps alone, and why the future of work demands deeper—not less—education.

Connect with Dr. Johannes Ziegler
LinkedIn:  / johannesziegler  
Website: https://careers.miaplaza.com/

Connect with Us
Company’s LinkedIn:   / flexion-inc  
Company Website: https://flexion.us/

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