陳元正 | 老百姓心中的汪精衛：真的政府、不是偽政府 Chen Yuan-Zheng on Wang Jingwei: True Government, Not Fake Government

2025年8月19日與9月8日，我們訪問了「台灣第一位裘派花臉」、京劇名家陳元正老師。陳老師1929年出生於江蘇丹陽，成長於汪精衛南京國民政府時期（1940至1945年），後赴台服役，退伍後投身教學，將京劇藝術的技藝與精神薪火相傳。陳老師至今仍對當年汪政權治下之安定與秩序記憶深刻。如果政府角色是服務人民，那麼就讓我們傾聽人民對汪政權的看法，立即點擊觀看！

我們由衷感謝陳元正老師。他願意牢記那段許多人選擇遺忘、或不願直視的歷史歲月，更願意以寶貴的時間向我們仔細道出他所珍視的記憶。這份坦誠與慷慨，殊為難得。我們同時感謝陳老師的學生、現亦為國立臺灣戲曲學院的鄭農正老師，協助促成訪談並全程支持，使這些珍貴內容得以與大家分享。

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On August 19 and September 8, 2025, we spoke with the renowned Peking Opera Master Chen Yuan-Zheng, who was born in 1929 and grew up in Danyang, Jiangsu Province, under Wang Jingwei's Reorganized National Government (1940-1945). In this video, Master Chen shares vivid memories of a stable and orderly life under Wang’s rule, in spite of Japanese occupation. If the role of government is to serve its people, let us hear what the people thought of the Wang Jingwei government (1940-1945) during the Japanese occupation.

Our sincerest gratitude goes to master Chen Yuan-Zheng for refusing to forget what mattered most to him about a period in history many choose to forget or look away from, and most of all, for his generosity of time in sharing these valuable recollections with us. We also thank Master Chen’s student, Master Nung-Cheng Cheng, who is also now a teacher of Peking Opera, for facilitating the meetings with Master Chen and for helping us share these moments.

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00:00 首次分享 First installment
22:08 二次分享 Second Installment
23:46 平時生活怎樣過？How was daily life?
24:07 吃得夠嗎？Did you have enough to eat?
24:12 教育方面如何？How about education?
24:29 聽過汪精衛演講？Have you heard Wang Jingwei speak?
25:12 什麼時候開始學戲？When did you start learning opera?
25:49 從大陸到台灣 Going from the Mainland to Taiwan
27:35 今人對汪精衛的認識 Do people understand Wang Jingwei today?
31:00 汪精衛與蔣介石 Wang Jingwei and Chiang Kai-shek
32:00 歷史對汪精衛的評價 History's evaluation of Wang Jingwei
35:08 汪精衛應該與日談和？Should Wang Jingwei have negotiated peace with Japan?
36:35 汪精衛是「漢奸」？ Was Wang Jingwei a traitor?
37:57 汪精衛親日？Was Wang Jingwei pro-Japanese?
39:25 唱三民主義 Singing National Anthem of the Republic of China (Three Principles of the People)

"Wang Jingwei: His Life, Ideas and Beliefs" will launch December 9, 2025.

《汪精衛生平與理念：一手史料重構民國史》將於2025年12月9日上架，敬請期待！

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