Lindiwe Zulu: Trump-Ramaphosa meeting, ‘GNU’, budget, ANC, MK Party, DRC, BRICS, 49 ‘refugees’

In today’s episode, we sit down with ANC veteran and former minister Lindiwe Zulu for an unfiltered conversation about her life in exile, her time in Umkhonto weSizwe, and the evolution of South African politics. Zulu shares untold stories of underground activism, her role in international diplomacy, and her views on the ANC’s coalition with the DA. From her time in Angola and Russia to the challenges of governing today, this is a deep and powerful reflection on struggle, service, and leadership.

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Credits:
Director and DOP: Nomaan Haarzavi for Narr8 Studio
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Producer: Oratile Kekana
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00:00:00 – Lindiwe Zulu Joins SMWX
00:01:22 – What Politicised Lindiwe Zulu?
00:04:57 – Hosting Exiled Students After 1976
00:08:27 – How Zulu Joined Umkhonto we Sizwe
00:12:14 – Studying in Moscow, Fighting for SA
00:14:31 – MK Recruitment: No Shortcuts to Leadership
00:16:04 – Choosing Armed Struggle Over Comfort
00:18:23 – Reunion with PAC Brother in Exile
00:21:25 – Why Zulu Opposed Ending Armed Struggle
00:26:33 – Angola: The Untold War Front
00:28:07 – Was the Struggle Worth It?
00:31:17 – Transitioning into Government After 1994
00:35:24 – Diplomatic Missions in Africa's War Zones
00:36:04 – From Parliament to Vodacom
00:39:37 – Becoming South Africa’s Ambassador to Brazil
00:40:37 – DRC Conflict: Leadership and Loss
00:46:30 – Trump, Afrikaner Exodus, and US Tensions
00:51:17 – “They Mustn’t Come Back” – On Emigrants
00:54:23 – Navigating Trump Era: Aggress or Apologize?
00:57:56 – Global Shifts: Declining US, Rising China
01:03:44 – Why Africa Must Defend South Africa
01:04:51 – Zulu: I Need Counselling Over GNU
01:11:36 – Inside the ANC’s GNU Frustration
01:13:06 – Budget Battles and Social Grant Crisis
01:18:43 – NEC Meeting Could Decide GNU Future
01:20:35 – Who Should Be the Next ANC President?
01:24:55 – “It’s Time for a Woman President”