Bernardo Kastrup and Shinzen Young on Mysticism and Science

This is an exploration between Shinzen Young and Bernardo Kastrup on mysticism, science, and liberation. Shinzen Young is a mindfulness teacher, the author of the Science of Enlightenment, and is the co-director of the SEMA lab at the University of Arizona. Bernardo Kastrup is an analytic philosopher, computer engineer, metaphysical idealist, and executive director of the Essentia Foundation.

Essentia Foundation: https://www.essentiafoundation.org/

Shinzen Young: https://www.shinzen.org/

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Timestamps:

0:00 Intro
2:32 Can philosophy, science, and mysticism align?
7:24 What does liberation consist of?
11:23 Bernardo’s path to insight
17:28 The paradox of cultivated improvement vs. nothing to improve
31:03 Blocking ourselves from life’s teaching
35:49 Did Spinoza have mystical experience?
48:44 The truth is not vulnerable
51:11 Training people in the spirit of science
1:06:43 Reflecting on Bernardo’s insight