Michael Williams (The Agony Scene, R.R. Williams, Thirty Called Arson)

In this upcoming episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, host Jeremy Alan Gould welcomes Michael Williams, frontman of the legendary metal band The Agony Scene, and R.R. Williams for a deep, wide-ranging conversation about music, purpose, and personal evolution. The two guests open up about their early influences, the defining moments that shaped their creative identities, and the struggles that come with staying true to yourself in a constantly shifting music landscape.


Michael shares stories from The Agony Scene’s early days—how the band rose out of the Oklahoma metal and hardcore scene, the challenges of maintaining creative chemistry after years apart, and what it’s been like to reconnect with fans who’ve grown alongside the band. R.R. Williams adds his own perspective on the underground community, discussing the emotional weight of performing, the grind of touring life, and the balance between ambition, art, and faith. Together, they reflect on how their personal experiences—on and off the stage—have shaped not only their sound but also their outlook on life.


Throughout the episode, the conversation moves between laughter and honesty, touching on topics like burnout, reinvention, collaboration, and what it means to evolve without losing the spark that started it all. The guests also tease what’s next—new creative projects, renewed energy, and a shared desire to keep pushing boundaries in their respective work.


Authentic, passionate, and unfiltered, this episode captures the heart of what The Rumors Are True Podcast is all about: the real stories behind the music, told by the people who live it every day. Whether you’re a die-hard fan of The Agony Scene, a musician searching for inspiration, or just someone who loves hearing about the grit and grace behind creativity, this conversation will leave you inspired and ready to turn the volume up.










Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes


Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser


Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.