Who really runs rugby now?

Rugby’s next great power shift has already begun.

From Carter Gordon’s dramatic return to union to South Africa’s dominance and the rise of Japan, Eddie Jones joins David Pembroke to unpack what’s really happening across world rugby.

Is the game evolving fast enough — or losing its way?

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In this episode:
00:00 🏉 Carter Gordon’s $100k return to rugby – good move or gamble?
02:50 ⚡ League vs union fitness — Eddie explains the real physical difference
06:15 💪 Why number 10s must get tougher — and smarter
10:20 🏆 Rugby Championship review — Springboks, All Blacks and the gap widening
13:45 🚨 “No trust in referees” — Eddie on consistency and World Rugby’s direction
16:00 ☁️ The aerial contest revolution — how South Africa changed the game
21:00 🇿🇦 South Africa’s rise — from 2015 humiliation to total domination
25:30 🇳🇿 What’s gone wrong in New Zealand’s player pathways?
30:00 🌏 The future of Super Rugby — Japan, the US, or something new?
32:00 💰 R360— threat or opportunity?
37:00 🎯 Gregor Townsend joins Red Bull Rugby — Eddie explains why it matters
42:00 🎌 Japan’s mindset: “Go for it, don’t hold back.”
50:30 ✈️ Rugby Unity heads to Japan for Wallabies v Brave Blossoms

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