Episode 5. Jos Kleijnen - 40 Years of Systematic Reviews

Professor Jos Kleijnen shared his stories, wisdom, and lessons from years of involvement in organisations such as Cochrane, KSR, GIN, and JBI.

His contribution is now recorded so that the young generation can learn how to be a leader in the right environment, with the right team, and with a bit of luck.

On the same day as this interview, Jos ended his appointment as the Secretary and Director of Kleijnen Systematic Reviews.

0:00 Introducing the series and the guest
01:07 Story of Professor Jos Kleijnen
02:07 Epidemiologists Playing Bridge
03:33 Problem-Based Learning
08:33 Story of Vitamin C and Common Cold, the Capital of Carnical in Netherlands, and Linus Pauling with Two Noble Prizes
13:31 No Meta-Analysis and Wrong Way to Do Meta-Analysis, Heterogeneity, and Number of Tissues Used Per Day
16:43 From Review of Alternative Medicine to a PhD Full of Systematic Reviews and a Classic Problem
19:17 Research can make the news and create debates, so do a thorough job
19:30 Criteria-Based Meta-Analysis before They are called Systematic Reviews
20:19 Three groups were doing systematic reviews in the world
21:11 Sir Iain Chalmers and the Story of Looking into Your Professor's Bin!
20:40 When Lancet Rejects Your Paper and You Publish it in Lancet ANYWAY!
24:47 Systematic Review, an inseparable part of any PhD
26:06 Improving the Quality of Research, Els Borst, and Dutch Cochrane Centre
32:55 Search Strategies Over the Phone
34:15 In Charge of German-Speaking Part of Europe at the Age of 31 and a Tip from Sir Iain Chalmers
35:16 German Cochrane Centre
36:44 Support from Bosses - The Right Environment and Luck
37:47 Cochrane Colloquium and Michael Peckham and Two Conferences Together
40:07 York on the move - Centre for Reviews and Dissemination (CRD), Trover Sheldon, and Alessandro Liberati
43:19 Clinical Practice Guidelines for NHS
46:36 Günter Ollenschläger, Guidelines International Network (GIN), and Improving Their Quality
49:03 Fluoride in Drinking Water, Threats and Trolls, BMJ, Labour Party Conference & Conservative Party Conference
53:13 An Interview Question
55:20 National Institute for Health and Care Excellence (NICE) and Importance of Being Critical
1:00:25 Fate, Hierarchy, and Start of Kleijnen Systematic Reviews Limited (KSR)
1:03:39 Companies Landscape and ISPOR
1:07:34 Leaving Your Tenured Job for 20 Years in KSR: Why?
1:11:37 Being On Call 24/7/365 even on your honeymoon
1:13:23 Exit Strategy: Venture Capitalists vs Employee Ownership Trust
1:20:29 Oenology and WSET (Wine & Spirit Education Trust) and Systematic Reviews AGAIN
1:24:56 QUADAS (Quality Assessment of Diagnostic Accuracy Studies)
1:26:08 When business is in your blood, even in a charity such as the Cochrane Collaboration
1:27:05 JBI (Joanna Briggs Institute) and Australia's Contribution
1:30:28 Managing Workload: Lessons to Learn
1:33:29 Post-DARE/HTA Era and KSR Evidence with 33,000 ROBIS Assessments in Collaboration with JBI
1:39:10 KSR vs Epistemonikos
1:42:04 Leadership Lessons
1:48:37 Is this a goodbye?
1:50:25 Who should I interview next?
1:57:20 Ending the interview and credits

Host: Farhad Shokraneh
Music Credit: Science Technology · ℗ Andi Hrytsyk