Are You "Too Perfect" to Be Depressed? Think Again

In this powerful and eye-opening episode, Beth sits down with Dr. Margaret Rutherford, renowned clinical psychologist and author of Perfectly Hidden Depression, to uncover the surprising truth behind perfectionism—and how it can quietly mask deep emotional pain.

Ever felt like you're holding it all together on the outside while falling apart inside? You're not alone.

Beth opens up about her own struggles with societal pressure—the ticking clock on partnership, parenthood, and the illusion of "having it all." Together, she and Dr. Rutherford dive into how perfectionism can create emotional numbness, disconnection, and a silent suffering that’s often overlooked—even by those closest to us.

This conversation is a must-listen for high achievers, caregivers, and anyone who's ever felt trapped by the pressure to be perfect. You’ll walk away feeling seen, inspired, and empowered to embrace your story—mess and all.

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Chapters
Introduction to the Episode (00:00:00)
Personal Connection to Perfectionism (00:01:00)
Origin of Perfectly Hidden Depression (00:04:40)
Viral Blog Post on Hidden Depression (00:07:17)
Internal Battles of Perfectionists (00:18:12)
Destructive vs. Constructive Perfectionism (00:20:26)
Understanding Perfectly Hidden Depression (00:26:38)
Breaking Free from Perfectionism (00:40:05)
Recognizing Hidden Depression (00:49:10)
The Importance of Unique Journeys (00:57:32)

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Margaret Robinson Rutherford Ph.D., a clinical psychologist with thirty years of experience, is also an author, TedX speaker, and podcast host. Her book, Perfectly Hidden Depression: How to Break Free from the Perfectionism That Masks Your Depression, has reached thousands here in the US, as well as having an international impact, with translations reaching from Korea to Italy, Turkey to Germany. Her highly popular podcast, The SelfWork Podcast, has been continuously rated as one of the best podcasts for mental health and depression.

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