Why AI Hasn’t Hit Main Street Yet, According to Mangomint’s CEO

In this episode of Mostly Growth, Kyle Poyar and CJ Gustafson sit down with Daniel Lang, CEO and co-founder of Mangomint, the vertical SaaS platform powering thousands of salons and spas across North America. Daniel shares how Mangomint scaled past $25M ARR in a crowded market by obsessing over product quality, sequencing, and customer trust. The conversation dives into why AI has not meaningfully arrived in Main Street businesses, what it actually takes to build agentic products for SMBs, and why systems of record, communication layers, and context matter more than hype.

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LINKS:

Mangomint: https://www.mangomint.com/
Daniel on LinkedIn:   / daniellangnet  

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CJ on LinkedIn:   / cj-gustafson-13140948  

Growth Unhinged: https://www.growthunhinged.com/
Kyle on LinkedIn:   / kyle-poyar  

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Ben on LinkedIn:   / slackerstuff  


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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Preview and Intro
00:00:58 Sponsors — Tropic | HockeyStack | RightRev
00:05:01 Mangomint Hits $25M ARR
00:06:08 AI-Washing vs Real Value
00:08:05 Is AI Used by Small Businesses?
00:09:52 System of Record Wins AI
00:11:00 AI Belongs in the Core System
00:12:24 Why Salesforce Lacks Context
00:14:36 Systems of Action Explained
00:16:05 AI Use Cases in Beauty & Wellness
00:17:39 Why “AI Growth” Claims Fail
00:19:06 Labor as Automation ROI
00:20:21 Beating Switching Costs
00:22:03 Market Consolidation Ahead
00:22:22 Starting with Scheduling
00:23:19 No Contracts, More Trust
00:24:28 Narrow ICP Strategy
00:26:11 Shipping Less, Better
00:27:06 Communication as the Unlock
00:28:10 Product-Led Growth Motion
00:29:49 Why Field Sales Fails
00:32:02 Payback Beyond CAC
00:33:03 When Non-Scalable Breaks
00:34:23 Buying a Media Company
00:36:16 Audience as a Moat
00:38:21 Business Blunders Segment
00:42:46 Tools and AI Commoditization
00:44:31 Closing Thoughts and Outro

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