The Pastor & the Meathead: Can Working Out Bring Glory to God? A Real Conversation | Sal Series EP09

In this episode, Sal sits down with Pastor Chuck — a friend, workout partner, and fellow “meathead” — for a raw conversation about faith, fitness, and glory. Together, they discuss what it means to train for God rather than for self, the dangers of idolatry in fitness, and how to reframe our gifts to glorify the One who gave them.

Chuck shares his personal journey into ministry, struggles with body image, and how CrossFit reshaped his perspective on health. Sal opens up about insecurity, chasing strength for the wrong reasons, and the challenge of surrendering idols.

This episode is packed with wisdom on glorifying God in everyday actions — from lifting weights to leading in faith.

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00:00 Meeting Pastor Chuck & mobility warm-up
05:21 What does it mean to train for God’s glory?
06:22 Why we exist: The chief end of man
07:23 Glory, work, and money — explained
08:35 Using talents to point people to God
10:46 Chuck’s journey to becoming a pastor
16:12 Worship, heart posture, and Cain & Abel
17:52 Tim Tebow, Chariots of Fire & God-given gifts
21:57 Can we pursue strength without idolatry?
23:10 Chuck’s body image struggles & CrossFit healing
26:24 Finding strength in weakness & helping others
31:19 Parallels between fitness and sanctification
33:22 Grace vs. shame in both faith and fitness
36:38 Breaking idols & finding peace in training

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