Tired, Anxious, or Moody? Check Your Liver

Most of us never connect liver health to mental wellness, but research shows the two are deeply linked. This episode is essential listening for anyone curious about true root causes of women’s health struggles, liver function, and the much-debated carnivore diet.

Natalie sits down with Lisa Pickart—a nutrition and fitness coach, empty nester, and former vegan turned carnivore—to discuss how the liver is the “powerhouse organ” central to health, hormone balance, metabolism, and even mental well-being. Lisa opens up about her dramatic health turnaround, her daily routine as a carnivore, and why she believes healthy liver function has more to do with what you take OUT of your diet (like vegetables and processed foods) than what you put in.

If you’ve struggled with fatigue, brain fog, thyroid issues, weight gain, or gut challenges—and you’ve wondered if the answer really might be your liver—this episode will answer questions you didn’t even know you had. Lisa dives into why most mainstream diet advice misses the mark for women, how liver congestion is silently impacting lives, and why she believes almost all the nutrients your body needs come from animal sources.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

Why the liver is the root of so many health concerns, especially for women

Lisa’s personal journey from autoimmune disease and obesity to thriving as a carnivore

What Lisa eats in a typical day—and why she left veganism behind

The most common mistakes women make that slow down their liver and metabolism

How habits like intermittent fasting, animal fats, and even skipping vegetables could support healing

The controversial science behind the carnivore diet, and who it may (or may not) be for

How to socialize, travel, and navigate peer pressure around food

Practical tips for evaluating your own liver health—and what tests to ask your doctor about

Busting myths around fiber, plant foods, and “everything in moderation”

Encouragement for parents raising kids, and why Lisa recommends meat as a foundation, even for children

Mindset shifts that help break the cycle of “all or nothing” thinking and emotional eating

This episode is packed with actionable advice, surprising insights, and a fresh perspective on healing from the inside out. Whether you're carnivore-curious, a struggling vegan, or just trying to feel your best as you age—this conversation invites you to question everything you’ve been taught about food, self-care, and women’s health.

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