Libertarian Takes Sam To Coconut Island

Dan from California calls in to take Sam to a magical tropical island.

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Dan: Hey sam. This is Dan Norton from California.
Sam: Dan from California, what's on your mind?
Dan: Yeah, we talked a few weeks ago about objectivism. I don't know you, you know that call. Sam: okay.
Emma: Yes, we know that call.
Dan: just want to make sure…
Sam: Oh you're the guy who has fertility issues!
Dan: So let's see, there's a lot I wanted to talk about since the last show. Where to start?
Sam: Well, let's give you the most important thing you want to talk about.
Dan: Most important, okay. I guess the island example we were talking about. I'd like to go back to that.
Sam: Okay refreshed my memory now.
Dan: Okay so I asked about the issue of coercion so if you're alone on an island the first question is if you're alone on an island do you need to work to survive. and I got an answer to that from you and from matt.
Sam: all right yeah okay well we'll figure out Emma. like we don't need to I don't need to take a tour of like Bradley and Emma and then maybe we can ask we're going in the hallways working in the building and this and that. I mean okay so what's your point? you're gonna make a point it's not about taking a survey.
Dan: Well, I thought there might have been some disagreement. That's why I was raising this. because Emma was the one who was bringing up the issue of coercion the most.
Sam: What's the point you want to make though? What's the point you want to make?
Dan: Well, I want to know what you think isn't coercion ultimately? because I think that's the root of the disagreement.
Sam: All right, well give me an example and I'll tell you if I think it's coercive.
Dan: Okay well maybe we can know Vaush's coconut island example?
Sam: no.
Dan: Okay it's kind of vulgar so maybe I'll give him a version of it well.
Sam: or not how about coming up with another example? how's that?
Dan: okay maybe I can debate that with him sometime if he wants but. So let's just say that there are two people on an island. and at first, they don't know about each other like imagine one is on each side of the island split in half and they don't agree so each one is surviving by himself at first and at that stage you would say is it correct that you would say neither is being coerced?
Sam: Neither man is being coerced. I mean if they're not in any way aware of each other so they can't be coerced. in each other and there's I don't know what other dynamic exists but assuming there's no everybody else on the island right they're not being coerced. Dan: Okay so there's no coercion if they're just by themselves in nature acting. okay now suppose that they discover each other or one discovers the other and they start trading with each other. like one guy says all right I'll do the fishing and you work on building the shelter.