Can Structure Kill the Spirit? Rich & Abbie Gamboa Go There

This week on Mature Me, Rich sits down with Abbie Gamboa—worship leader, songwriter, and member of UPPERROOM.

Abbie’s life is marked by surrender, spontaneity, and the presence of the Holy Spirit. She opens up about learning to lead before she felt ready, navigating the tension between excellence and expression, and how motherhood reshaped her view of worship and leadership.

This conversation is a powerful reminder: God doesn’t always come the same way twice. The greatest offering is your posture, not your performance.

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00:00 – Intro
06:34 – Abbie Stepping Into Her Calling
13:07 – The Power Of A Parent
19:41 – Leaning Into The Timing of God
26:15 – Growing Up in the Spirit
32:48 – When You Want to Hide Your Voice
39:22 – Making Peace With Being Seen
45:56 – God Will Use What You Resist
52:30 – Leading Worship While Wrestling Doubt
59:04 – Letting Go of the Outcome
1:05:38 – What Obedience Actually Looks Like
1:12:12 – Presence Over Performance Every Time
1:18:46 – The Unraveling That Leads to Worship